After re-installing them, everything was fine and stayed that way. Last time I had this bug, it turned out to be a snafu between iNeed and CACO. Then re-activate your trouble-makers and see if you're good to go. At this point, there's a decent chance that you can get your savegame back on track by using the mod editor function in Save Cleaner to whack all the active forms and scripts in the mod(s) in question, load up your save with everything else, wait for a while somewhere safe, make a new save, exit. Keep on going until you can load with everything activated but the "problem children." If this is the case, go back to dividing and conquering until you find a SECOND problem plugin. However, there's a decent chance you won't be able to. (Which, in these days of everything being patched to work with everything else may be quite a few!) See if you can still make a test save. THEN activate all the rest of your plugins except for that one plugin AND all the plugins that depend on it. Keep on going until you identify a single mod that causes the crash if activated. If you CAN save, erase the test save, add in half of the leftovers and try again. If you CAN'T save, reduce by half again and try again. To get a meaningful diagnosis, load up your game with half your load order deactivated and see if you can make a save. Have you tried the old player.kill trick? (Details in the second post here: ) When I've had that bug, it has never provided a long-term fix, but it HAS provided proof that I can still actually make saves. Apparently, XPMSE just does that, and - also apparently - it's not really a problem - even if it bugs the heck out of me. I didn't have pap logs on, but it was also opening crazy numbers of scripts. In my case, XPMSE seemed like an early culprit. I could just resume from yesterday's saves that work, but with the problem unresolved today there's absolutely no way of knowing whether it will just appear again in the future. My load order is so huge and interconnected that I'm not sure it's worth posting, but I can if anyone thinks that will help. The vast majority of them relate to XPMSE, which is strange since I only use it for back swords and hip daggers. Papyrus Logs are extensive with a massive amount of errors and missing things. I ran Save Game Script Cleaner and every option turned up with 0 problems and 0 scripts deleted. I thought I had nailed the issue down to Immersive Patrols, but when I reassembled my game and repatched, it was back. Disabling any major mod requires me to deactivate a patch, and then all my Skyproc Patches are unusable. It's proving impossible to diagnose what mod is causing the problem because I am using Requiem, which requires about 30 compatibility patch plugins. My load order is fairly massive, with about 250 plugins. I have no idea what happened, how it infected everything else I did today, and why nothing from previous days was affected. It's like something went wrong and retroactively broke everything I did today. Three hours of playtime today with no issues, and now all of those saves are tainted and crash when saving. My save games from yesterday seem to work fine, and I can save with them. This is only true of games I saved today. Now, every single time I save in any way, console or menu, the game crashes instantly. I hit level 20, clicked Health for level up, and instantly I am looking at my desktop. I've been playing Skyrim for three days now, and the first two days were without problems. Honestly I'm at my wit's end trying to figure it out. Hi, I'm having a problem that is proving to be resilient.
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